An initiative by www.agedcarecrisis.com

Aged Care Nurses Conference

No mandated staff/resident ratios in Australian aged care facilities AND no mandated minimum skill set required. A case of government ignoring our elderly and frail? Also, discussions regarding your workplace issues, management, culture of your workplace, etc.

Re: Aged Care Nurses Conference

Postby industrystandard on Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:01 pm

Snappo wrote: Another interesting point, due to the medication errors occuring, management put an EEN on morning shift solely to do the medications. Believe it, or not, there are as many, if not more errors occuring. Carers at least had a reason for making the occassional error, they were doing 10 things at once, but what excuse did the EEN have when all she did was meds?? I have also seen RN's making medication errors, so it all boils down to not necessarily your training, but the care you take when doing this role. RN's, EEN's,EN's, Medication credentialled carers, they all have to follow the same basic '5 R's', right resident, right route, right medication, right dose, right time. This is not hard, if you're careful....


Indeed, you can teach any-one the five R's and no-one is better or worse at avoiding errors (my stats show an even spread across the three job descriptions*). My concern is around the pharmacology knowledge that carers and a lot of ENs lack. A good working knowledge of drug actions and interactions is essential to give excellent care to the elderly. Seemingly simple decisions about medications can have serious consequences. For example, recently I was called to look at a resident who was suffering from episodes of agitation. These had grown worse over the preceding fortnight and she was falling more frequently, becoming dehydrated and losing weight - well on the slippery slope of decline. The ENs had been trying to deal with it by giving PRN medication but the actual problem was related to alprazolam (ordered regularly) and it's short-term action with severe rebound effects. I fixed it by getting a psychogeriatrician in but it would have been better if that had happened two weeks earlier. The ENs weren't doing anything wrong - they were giving the regular and PRN medication as ordered. It was just a lack of knowledge about that particular medication which meant that the possibility of a drug adverse effect was being overlooked. GPs do rely on us to give them good feedback and that includes noting drug effects. I don't think the value of a greater RN to EN/care staff ratio can be downplayed wether it's actually administering medications or having enough hours to oversee clinical care.


* anecdotally, carers tend to be the most conscientious. I think it's the fear factor. They are so aware of their responsibilities and afraid of making a mistake.
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Re: Aged Care Nurses Conference

Postby Snappo on Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:11 pm

This is very interesting, Industrystandard. When I did my medication course, we were told that what the resident takes is none of our business, in fact, it is an infringement of their confidentiality for us to be aware of what they are taking. Our role was purely to assist them with the medications as prescribed by their doctor. This, of course, assumes that the prescribing doctor is aware of reactions to drugs, and drug interactions in general. Sometimes, if there is a medication change, we are asked to 'monitor' the resident and note any adverse reactions or behaviour changes.

This explains the memo sent around by our (RN) facility manager in response to several medication errors. We were told to be aware of the 6 'R's'. The last 'R' was right response. We were never taught this as, technically, we aren't supposed to know what the medications are for, therefore, how would we know what the right response is? This really doesn't make sense if we are asked to monitor them.
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Re: Aged Care Nurses Conference

Postby Nurse Rosie on Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:59 am

As mentioned earlier, I am now working in the public sector in a Rehab Unit. They apologise profusely if I am buddied with an unendorsed Div 2 RN and have to do 12 patient medications. They don't understand why I have a giggle at this. LOL.

I'm still fortunate enough to work with elderly patients and get great satisfaction from seeing them progress to being well enough to go home and cope independently or with services. The private aged care sector almost did me in. I was going to chuck in nursing there for a while. Thankfully this job came along at the right time - I love it.

To all of you still working in private aged care, good luck for a huge battle on your hands in getting mandatory staff/resi ratios.
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